"REACTIONS" to an HT encyclopedia-sytle article posted to wikipedia.com, all occuring within a 9-hour period, after one of the moderators [Kelly Martin] read it, and decided it needed to go to the Votes For Deletion Section.

Human Thermodynamics Article - 5/25/05
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Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Human thermodynamics
Date: May 25th, 2005
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NOTE: Credentials of Debaters:

Libb Thims
B.S. Chemical Engineering - University of Michigan <Respectable Credential>
B.S. Electrical Engineering - University of Michigan <Respectable Credential>
PhD. Biochemistry - University of Berkeley (in progress) <Respectable Credential>
M.D. Neuroscience - University of Berkeley (in progress) <Respectable Credential>
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Education: two general studies degrees - Indiana University
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Human thermodynamics

This article is likely nonsense. Kelly Martin 03:05, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Keep: While this article could use a good cleanup, it seems coherent enough in it's present form. --ImaSpy 03:07, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Comment: ImaSpy's only contributions (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=ImaSpy) to WP so far have been to this and one other VfD page. -- Hoary 09:48, 2005 May 25 (UTC)

Comment: I'm torn. While I think the thing may very well be a bunch of crud, it could very well be a belief that some people hold. I think, given that "formula" that appears early, this is nonsense. I'm inclined to agree with Kelly. Delete Xcali 03:19, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Delete: seems like patent nonsense to me. Capitalistroadster 03:29, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Delete: this nonsense seems to have an existence outside of Wikipedia, but unlike say Time Cube, this seems to be marginal enough to be classified as non-notable kind of sillyness. jni 07:38, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Comment: we read that The framework of HT as a virgin science can be employed to intelligently answer any question related to human phenomena. HT helps one enjoy life -- yet be keen to its guidelines! Ah yes. Let's reconsider this, er, science after it has lost its virginity and is written up in peer-reviewed mainstream journals (see: JHT) Delete: -- Hoary 09:43, 2005 May 25 (UTC)

Delete: as patent nonsense (although some of the jokes are cute). Fg2 11:56, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Delete: Joke article. Sjakkalle 13:01, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Speedy Delete: I am the author of the article. I apologize for putting it on Wikipedia. I stumbled upon the Wikipedia website yesterday, did a search for 'Human Thermodynamics', but found nothing, and thought it would be nice for the community to have a small entry on the subject. To be clear, it is a very new branch of thermodynamics; not more than a dozen people around the world are presently working on it. The concept of a 'human molecule' was originated in 1977 by the Nobel Prize winner (Chemistry) Ilya Prigogine who used the term: 'dissapative structures' to define such an entity. After reading the above comments, I see that it would be wiser for such a new science to have a better reader base before it is implemented into an encyclopedia.

Comment: sorry for the trouble. Libb Thims; B.S. Chemical Engineering, B.S. Electrical Engineering, Ph.D. Biochemistry - M.D. Neuroscience (in progress). -- 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Reply: Thanks for the comment. I'll speedy this once I've double checked this was in fact the author. Mgm|(talk) 18:33, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.

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ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT: Votes For Deletion [VFD] section
NOTE: of this discussion group, the only person to have any scientific credentials is Mgm|(talk); a chemistry student from the Netherlands; the others mostly general knowledge folk.
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